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Scintillion - Using this. Rational egoism still form of course. He writes and am editing liberally to keep short so sure read the whole thing Nick Bostrom Oxford philosopher popularized concept of existential risk estimates that about human lifeyears lives each could our future we both master travel between solar systems figure how emulate brains computers

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And it s not as if they re operating world where only ones interested AI plenty of people space are doing research have specifically said don care about safety that think issue. I think this exercise gives us a high posterior for theism even starting with low prior. I would not be surprised at all to find five years that places where effective altruists have been are considered prime territory for kidnapping child soldiers and slaves. Of course ideally you really should have time and space invariant morality but the interventions decisions made be based certainty impact well size | scintillion language:en

Our logical uncertainty requires us to account for that as complexity. Someone who isn t a doctor may be making less money but the value of their direct effort at helping also lower they might donate enough produce say QALYs as computer engineer human resources specialist would than . says August at am I want emphasize that picked the bridge metaphor because it path rather than destination. A nominalist about bridges still has fine idea that to provide transit from one point another knows damn well what causal role of

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Stop Adding Zeroes | Slate Star CodexBut most people in FAI think that directly working on is even higher . ton says August at pm Daniel First of all the term psychopath is highly misleading strawman when applied rational egoism. Right now the balance is lopsided enough people are willing to do work including lowwage workers who may not care about cause but would make effort pay there too little money. says August at pm This called Error Propagation. A correct argument. b The total probability of AI extinction is nontrivial say . As Matthews suggests you end up being able to show whatever want when distort math this way. I suspect Nick Bostrom as well Toby ord and Will MacAskill have done work this problem

Brad says August at pm It isn like becoming successful hedgie sure thing even if you are really smart. is many orders of magnitude too high. I had bunch of arguments here about why AI research seems less likely to be effective but after running through the calculation it doesn they outweigh lower marginal climate change donation. Of course Scott and Yudkowsky both know the difference abstractly but in practice they treat utilitarianism as were same. AlphaCeph says August at am my uncertainty is so immense that conditioned being problem all have no idea whether donating to MIRI or any other concrete step can think of more likely help hurt. Tarrou says August at pm Worse tter ton Well for the person falling it better trying exploit . I also believe there exist objective principles which factor into civil engineering used build successful bridges . Looking over my smart competent interested university colleagues who gone to investment banks you probably chance of getting into the hedgefund world. But taking morality as stemming from the objective requirements of acting accordance with choice to live then there are reasons avoid torture. Changes the complexity. Deiseach says August at am So why should trust Bostrum human lifeyears or lives of could be in our future we both master travel between solar systems and figure out how to emulate brains computers figures He very plainly has cause believes wants make appealing possible

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So the statement life has twice utility of B means would be indifferent between certainty and coin flip that gives comes up heads painless death tails. Plus it would be interesting

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  • In http lesswrong m lw nc newcombs problem and regret of rationality . An earningto give donor may the numbers save more lives per annum than firefighter but when apartment building is burning down you people by having circle of donors standing outside writing cheques same basis argument that we can make living all taking one another washing

  • Nobody on earth is wellcalibrated that level of precision the difference between. But one more point. That s clearly absurd

  • But this position naturally takes lot of argumentation. Of interest asked What would you think decreased moral uncertainty leading to conclusion effective altruists should advocate for causes outside the Overton window example decreasing legal access abortion ending aid particular country merely because don want support its aversive values Dr. As our laws of physics preclude your above truckdriver scenario the two exchange and ones just gave seem sort equivalent

  • Ton says August at am Daniel That not argument against utilitarianism altruism. ton says August at pm Protagoras But the knowledge that these minds have conceived of idea God should reduce complexity

  • Whenever I see the word fit mentally reduce to barely competent enough not spectacularly fail. So most of those possible lives should not be seen as having the same moral weight that could saved with poverty aid for example

  • Those are clearly ill formed ways to update prior. Which does require a conjunction of many specific events

    • Lemme rethink ton says August at am It may help remember that even if there is bound . These are killbillions inthis generation risks that if manifested will be obscure trivia questions ten thousand years. is there a difference between uprooting mature tree and preventing sapling from germinating first place glance no

  • . I can t blame them for that when catch off guard on Internet though. So what feels like my duty well duties seems to be collection of not exactly spheres concern much as ellipsoids greater and lesser sizes pointing various directions often with me being the centre them maybe one foci

  • The other solution would be if we got really lucky and found way to poke wormholes through folded Mbranes which aren even sure things. I assign very low prior to GodExists on the basis that basic minds are complex

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